E002. Awaken the Multidimensional Self and Remember Your Mission with Matthew Mournian

A candid interview with Author and Energy Healer Matthew Mournian where we discuss the harrowing adventure that was his origin story, his psychic awakening, and his take on the nature of the hyper-dimensional human.

Transcript

[00:00:00] And just real quickly before you go, I will say why, why is it all called remember your mission?

It's not a cheesy tagline. It's not some kind of cool, you know, URL that I tried to develop. because in summer of 2017 I was under such incredible energetic pressure, my body had been so ripped open, I was experiencing so many different forms of multidimensional weirdness that there was one day in particular in which a number of beings and sort of energy showed up. And I was literally fell on my hands and knees in the backyard of my house in San Diego, California in 2017. And I heard in my head this phrase and it sounds so cheesy, but it was literally what they said. They said, Matthew, you have a mission. It is time to remember. 

Welcome. To the hyper dimensional human podcast. My name's Cameron Mack, and I'm going to be your [00:01:00] guide and fellow traveler into the mysterious worlds of the hyper dimensional human. Please join us as we investigate ways to help healers, psychics, and mystics of all kinds and empower themselves for their journey towards self-mastery, not only in this World, but also in the ones beyond.

In today's episode, I am pleased to welcome a friend, healer and teacher Matthew Mournian. This was technically my first interview for the hyper dimensional human podcast so I'm very proud to be able to have an expert healer that has helped me in my own healing journey. We get more into it in the conversation to follow, but I just want to note that by far one of the coolest things about Matthew is his candid way of speaking is honesty and his integrity. And with part of this community being about disclosure, [00:02:00] I can't stress how important this is. 

I mean, you might be thinking Yeah. Yeah... Honesty is necessary for a conversation about disclosure but you'd be surprised how that's not always the case. When it comes to teachers and reporters in this field. Um, and today's conversation, Matthew and I get into. His origin story. And how it continues to. Affect his work to this day. Um, we talk about. Something that he calls the four gateways to psychic activation. which he claims are our four pillars that support. Support the spiritual aspirants journey of awakening.

And the conversation with Matthew would. Not be complete without touching on the controversial side of things. And. This case is take on a number of. Uh, question. Questionable channelers and healers out there over the years that. Claim to work with high [00:03:00] level spiritual beans and gods. 

Oh, and, uh, before I forget, I wanted to mention that by the time this. Podcast gets out there. Matthew will have launched his first book entitled. Titled, remember your mission. I'm sure you'll want to check out his book on Amazon. The link to the book should be in the description of this episode.

If you like what you hear today and have yet to follow. Or subscribe, please consider doing so. I appreciate your support.

And without further ado.

all right. So I was, I was checking out your website. Huh. I like your bio.

Thanks.

so the, the it says here I'm a multi, I'm a multidimensional energy healer and intuitive reader specializing in [00:04:00] clearing, balancing, and removal of negative energetic manifestations from the body. My current mission is to assist in healing the human body and our collective consciousness through the activation of expanding multi dimensional intuitive healing abilities that exist within each of us.

Yeah, that's like to me that's like, so it's one of the reasons why I wanted, I definitely wanted to bring you on is like with my concept of the hyper dimensional human. That's like, kind of that concept, your work is kind of at the, at the center of it because the hyperdimensional human is like the person that realizes is.

their multi dimensional nature. At whatever point they are in their life, maybe they realized it a long time ago, maybe [00:05:00] it's a new thing, but they realize that they are multi dimensional in nature. But here, the thing about this this This podcast and this platform that I want to start to investigate is how can people that realize that they have this multidimensional nature, what things can they start to do in their their lives?

what practices, what tools, what resources, what places to go, what can they start to do in their lives to start to optimize their multidimensional nature to have a better third dimensional life. Right? So it's not, it's not really like about, It's about going off and escaping into the higher realms or a higher multi or higher dimensional selves.

It's about how [00:06:00] to integrate certain practices and a way of life that will allow us to have a more holistic life. You know, I envision a time where there are more and more people coming on board to this way of thinking. of the hyperdimensional human 

yeah. So with your work, so let's see. So what is it like, what's your day? What is your day to day? Like you, you would, would you consider yourself a hyper dimensional human?

you know, I would like to think so. But I think if there's one thing I've learned over the past few years of doing this, is that everyone's going to have their own kind of understanding of what a lot of these terms mean. And depending on who you follow or who's, you know, [00:07:00] a timeline you subscribe to, it could mean very, very different things. I do believe that one of. primary kind of experiences that we'll have in this life cycle is, is one of understanding at least on a limited level, what is multidimensionality or we can call hyper dimensionality. and I guess if I wanted to kind of define it or define it for me in some sense, my, My day to day journey or like literally what I do lately every single day is connect with people in online meetings and open up channels of nonphysical energy within the body, which, you know, to me, that would be kind of the essence of multidimensionality from the perspective that, you know, we're consistently on an everyday basis moving outside of the scope of the physical reality that we're in. And so for me, the day to day is literally this. I will connect with people over zoom. we'll do sessions. I will do [00:08:00] readings. We will do energy clearings. And I think for me, it kind of came about through understanding in my own bizarre and semi traumatic crash course of a manner, what the word multidimensionality even means, which I guess if you, you want to put a label on it. It is the stage in which we begin to understand the myriad of worlds, realms, and sources of energy that exist outside of our physical reality, it seems as though there are an infinite number of them. I know that's always a kind of a broad term, but really there's an infinite, an infinite number of non physical intelligences that we share the earth with. I think that a lot of people, When they step into maybe a lifestyle of that or unlocking such things or learning how to do so, you know, for themselves, we learned that there's, there's many different versions of it. And, you know, like I said, a few minutes ago, it depends on who we subscribe to it is literally real.

And I think if you're one of the people that found this now moment is [00:09:00] not by mistake, it is because something is trying to communicate to you that you're more than what is in this physical body. And so I don't know if that answers it, but literally it's what I do every single day for better or worse, I often say, and you know,

So

when you do stuff like this, you'll realize sometimes it's for better every now and then it's for worse, you know, and I mean, it's a, it's a thing when you kind of do enough of these, you'll realize they don't, they don't always go as planned. You know, but we'll keep doing it.

I'm gonna assume that most of the people that you work with have some awareness of their own their own multidimensional nature, of their own spirit, of their own energy body.

I would say yes, but not always. I think people will come to me trying to understand what is it that's [00:10:00] happening within my world. A lot of times it comes in through the lens. we could say through the experience of I feel as though I've been impressed by spirits I feel as though you know, I've had some sort of an extraterrestrial experience I feel as though you know I have an attachment or like an entity or or Maybe just I've got a lot of really crazy trauma and I can't seem to stop feeling this way I can't seem to stop feeling that way every now and then I would say maybe over this year, especially It's been a lot of people who have been are at a stage of understanding already.

There's way more than what's going on in this physical reality. And I'm beginning to have experiences with it in my own way. How do I figure out which part is real? How do I figure out which part is fake? How do I figure out what I need to do to make it stronger? Or in some cases it's to make it go away because some people don't necessarily want to experience their own multidimensionality.

Other people come in in a state of great upheaval and they're like, how do I normalize myself? And so. [00:11:00] Maybe it's different. I would, I would say really kind of depends upon the in, in individual, we can say, but by and large, most people do have some idea that there's more than this reality.

Cool. So what, what do you do in cases that they are, that they're not so aware? Cool. That they, you know, I hear what you're saying that it's, it sounds like you're saying like they will say it in other, through other lenses, through other frameworks or perspectives. 

What I do in those cases is pretty much literally what you just said. Some people will come in under very different circumstances. I mean, I also get a lot of people that just want to get readings on certain things. They're like, can you give me a reading on what's going to happen in my life? Or, you know, certain, certain, we can say day to day things. And what I've noticed is not everyone's [00:12:00] really always ready to kind of dive into the deep end of the pool of like, well, it turns out there's other versions of you on other timelines that are currently coinciding and connecting with you in this physical body. Some people are ready for that. are seeking that kind of connection.

What I do in the situations in which it's not necessarily the accepted channel of reality that we're going to talk about, tend to filter things through. would call like an old school therapeutic approach, which was, which was actually my previous occupation before I started doing what I'm doing now. So I'll, I'll, I will kind of filter it through, you know, old school, know, traditional, like, well, let's unpack that and verbally process certain things and come to new different emotional understanding. So for some people, it's just about emotional healing. Healing and kind of having a place in which they can deprogram the intensity of the modern world. And other people want to get really, really weird and, you know, it goes in a whole other different direction. But, I think you'll, you'll kind of learn to do that over [00:13:00] the, over the years of doing this work. You'll realize that everyone is at a different stage of consciousness. necessarily mean higher or lower, it's just people are going to be tuned in to different channels of existence. And I think the people that can make this type of work work for them, meaning it's something that they can continue to repeat over and over and over again, you will inevitably learn how to filter and moderate your responses through the version of reality that people are able to receive. And so, Yeah, I don't know if that answers it.

But it's, yeah.

yeah, yeah. Cool. So what was your gut like going back in time a little bit? What's like briefly what was your what I like to call the origin story? What was, what was your origin story?

That's a very, that's actually a very good question.

Did you get bit by something?

I wish I did. I wish it was that cool. It's funny cause I, you know, you might've [00:14:00] heard, maybe you haven't heard, probably, probably not. I've been writing a book about this for the past two months, like literally like eight to 10 hours a day. I just finished with it in the past week.

Finally, finally done. And so I've, I've, I've had a lot of time recently to unpack the origin. Of what this, of where this all started. And I always start by saying this. A lot of people that have heard me know that I'm going to say this. I had no idea this was what I was going to do in this life. It took me 40 years of living as a human to realize, Oh, you're a psychic.

You're an energy worker. Oh, that's what it is. Damn. And so for me, it started in doing the work that I was doing prior to that, which I was working in a professional mental health capacity, I was working at a veteran's treatment center with people that were just coming off the street, trying to get, you know, treatment for chemical dependency, or trying to, you know, get out of homelessness. And for me, it started at a homeless outreach fair, which is crazy. I was literally working at a homeless outreach fair at the program that I was [00:15:00] working in at the time, just trying to get people into social services and various things. And I was walking through this fairground area. And there was a bunch of older women there that were doing energy work on people.

You know how they'll have vendors at outdoor fairs and some of them do weird things. Some of them do normal things. There was this group of older women were, they were just doing energy work on people. And I was walking through this crowd and an old lady was just like, would you like an energy blessing? And I was like, well, I will tell you what I really thought. But you know, when the words that came out of my mouth were like, Yeah, I guess. Okay. Is it okay if I sit down right there? Cause they had a really nice tent and they had water and they had shade. And I was like, well, all right, I'll sit down here. And this lady put her hands on my head very, very gently. She just touched the very top of my head and sat in silence for a few moments. it's funny because I'm, every time I talk about it, I can still feel kind of the sensation, but whatever she was doing, [00:16:00] It felt as though my breath, instead of moving through my nostrils or my mouth, actually started coming out of the top of my head in that moment. Which is a weird thing to be like, what, how, how is that possible? And so what ended up happening is that within 30 days of that moment, after receiving this strange little energy blessing, after, you know, maybe two minutes, she was like, okay, there you go. You know, and I was like, what? And I walked away feeling field of energy at the top of my head within, I would say 30, 60 days from that moment. so many things had changed in my world. It was literally as if I was becoming a different, I mean, I was, I was becoming a different person. And my, the field of energy around my body had been literally ripped open. I had what many people call a very, very rapid crown chakra opening. And what happened is all kinds of energy started pouring into my body.

A lot of things started leaving and within a month or two, I had changed on such a level that it [00:17:00] was honestly horrible at first. It was like, you know, for some people it sounds insane, but literally beings started showing up in my room in the middle of the night. I started waking up in the morning and watching myself and experiencing at the same time myself moving through a portal in the ceiling. There was like a shimmering blue green opening would come open in my ceiling and I would watch myself going back down into the body. I mean, it led to one thing after another, after another. I would walk by a person in public and it was as if I was walking through a sheet or a veil of energy. I would get stuck inside their body, which sounds impossible.

How could that possibly happen? But it was like, I would feel, I could, it sounds crazy. It was like, I could smell what they eaten. I could taste certain things. I could see them putting on their clothes in the morning and one morning in particular, I walked past some women at work it was like, I could see one of them getting dressed in the morning, standing in front of her mirror, putting her makeup on.

And it was [00:18:00] like, was like, I realized that something inside me had been ripped open to such an extent. it was like I was drifting in and out of the body and I had no control over it in the beginning. I wish I could say it was cool and awesome and mystical, was not. It was absolutely unbearable.

I was cowardly. I was shameful. I was like constantly crying, like literally every single day something would happen and I would break down into tears and just like, Oh God, like it was crazy, man. And so that that continued for a Most of summer of 2015 till about summer of 2016, I got a whole year of drifting in and out of the body completely

So you, so you

all kinds of weird beings literally waking up on the back porch of my house, standing in my underwear. While something that looked like a literal ship was drifting away from, drifting away from my house, like a literal craft would leave. And I would just [00:19:00] stand there like, what? And it was like missing time, all of those things. And anyway, long story short, it took about two years of that. And in early 2017, I met a woman who was a professional psychic.

And, you know, there's a lot more to the story, but the short version is was one of the only people I honestly, up until that stage of my life, she was the one and only person who found me. Actually looked at me and was like, You're a psychic. Yes, you are. That's why you're so weird. And I was like, and so she kind of took me under her wing and showed me a few things.

And honestly, the rest was history. Here we are. was in 2017. And now we're in 2024. And every single thing she ever told me came literally true. Every single thing that she said actually happened in my life and now it is the only thing I do. so I guess, you know, to kind of wrap up on that, I think I was an [00:20:00] example of a very, very shockingly explosive and rapid energetic awakening that was due to a really massive crown chakra opening.

And so Anyway. I know that's a lot of stuff, but that is basic.

did kind of get bit.

Yeah,

kind of get bit.

kind of in a way,

So I'm a lady at a fair.

open.

That's awesome. So that happened when you're around 40, you said?

Yep. It was a year. I turned 40 2000, oh, actually I turned 40 in 2017, so I guess I was 38 in, in 2015, July of 2015. That was the, that was the big crown chakra opening moment. So yeah, somehow,

So my, my bite was a little different, but but I went through all of that. very similar type of themes when I was 20. I wonder if there's, I wonder if [00:21:00] it's better getting that at when you're 20 or better that happened when you're 40. Yeah, I mean, there is no better, but you know, I, I, I, I try to imagine if all that happened when I was 40, how I would react.

Hmm. How about you? What, what if it happened? Can you imagine if it when you were 20, how you, how differently you would act?

I sort of wish that it could have, but I had to spend most of that period of my life, up until I think, actually, I think, yeah, the year that I turned 20. 20, maybe like 21, somewhere around that time. I was a massively traumatized drug 

addict for most of my early stages of my life. I was fully addicted to heroin and cocaine at that stage. I was going in and out of jail constantly. I was in like literally like 14 different rehabs around that time and right around Y2K, literally [00:22:00] Y2K, December 31st, 1999. Was right before I, I, I was about to go into the final treatment center I had ever been in. I think, you know, right around that stage, I was, you know, somewhat within that age range. And I think had that have occurred for me at that time in my life, I would have been unable to receive it. I was caught up in what I do believe to be a soul level entity attachment, a shadowic kind of attachment that I had come into this life with that, you know, some people will say it's just your own dysfunction.

Maybe it was, you know, Maybe it was an entity, maybe it was a contract, doesn't really matter what it was, but it was, it was a chapter of my life wherein if that would have happened to me at age 20, there's no, say it like that. There's a very low likelihood that I would have been able to handle such things, but I have also heard of other people that will have a similar sort of explosive awakening around that stage of some people.

It starts, you know, between the age of 17 to 21. [00:23:00] So for some people, it's a little bit earlier, a little bit later, but it does correspond with the age range in which some people will also develop what people will refer to as a schizoaffective disorder of some kind, which

Yeah.

people out there is literally the massively open energy field in a crown chakra that will get ripped open. It's just that within our modern world, within the Western society, we often encounter those people who are like, Oh, you've got a mental health disorder. That's all it is. You're just, you're just crazy, which was also a thing for me. I didn't get the you know, diagnosis. I got bipolar. I got this, I got that.

I got, at the time, I think it was still called manic depression or something, you know, whatever it was, it was just another label for it. But, so I think it's better for me that it happened at age 40. I think it happened when it was supposed to. I'll add one other thing. I think for me, it kind of tried to start in 2012. [00:24:00] Because in 2012, like a lot of people, I, I wasn't really keyed into a lot of like that, my calendar story, I thought it was cool. I was like, whoa, that's awesome. Maybe the end of the world will happen. But I, I was going through a similar thing in 2012 where it was kind of like, you know, 2015 in which my entire energy field felt like it was ripping open.

Maybe similarly to you, I started experiencing other dimensions of realities, and in 2012, I suppressed it. I went to a doctor, I got on meds again. You know, I was already taking antidepressants at the time, but I went to the doctor and I was like, I need different meds, put me in a hospital, do something, they didn't hospitalize me, but they were like, we're just going to load you up on a shitload of pills. And, and it, it worked from the perspective that it pushed me back inside my body and stop something from taking place. And so anyway, I guess it happens when it's meant to, you know,

Yeah. Cool. So after 2017 [00:25:00] did you go through a stage where like the whole, I guess the whole stage of like

Oh shit. There, you know, I have, I have these abilities now and what can I do to hone in on them? How, how can I train myself to like, what am I trying to say here?

Hone in on and, and

make them, come to, come to a point. How can I come to a point where I can help other people with that, with it? How can I get in shape, so to speak? How can I shape up to to get to the point where I can help other people? Did you, you go through that type of thing?

I have to be

Or were you able just to help people?

Actually. No,

Or was it just

was

natural?

I, when this started, I guess, first off when this started, I never considered it to be an ability. I did not, I was going through all this crazy activation stuff, it did [00:26:00] not occur to me for a second that I was like, am I supposed to do something with this?

For me, it was honestly like. I felt like I was crazy. I was lost. Everything inside me was unmanageable. Nothing in my life fit anymore. I knew that something real was happening. Like it was beyond the point where I was like, this is fake. I'm dreaming. I'm crazy. I mean, eventually I talked to a few people and know, they're like, you're having an awakening, you're not crazy.

And you know, whether both of those are true remains to be seen as kind of irrelevant now. But at the start of it, I was not considering whether or not I was supposed to help people with it. And I think it was Probably around 2017, in which I met this woman that, you know, she was the first one that ever saw me that really helped me get started.

And she was the one that literally told me. Like you're going to be helping a lot of people. You're going to be doing this work for the rest of your life. If you follow this path, you will never return to the version of yourself that you are right now. And at the time I was like, what? Really? And literally [00:27:00] everything she told me was real, but. It took me a while to kind of accept it. And I think what I needed to do was see an example of other people that were working and operating as such. And in the period between 2016 and 17, I started to meet a group of people that were doing the kind of work that I was doing now. And so it was like spirit brought into my life examples of what does this look like?

What's the real version of it? What is a real intuitive look like? What is a real energy worker? How do they operate? What kind of things do they do? What sort of practices do they partake in? And I think around the stage in which I began to realize like, okay, I'm supposed to do this and it's because I'm going to do this type of thing or this type of thing. I learned that probably one of the most important things I first needed to do was detox myself. probably

Hmm.

everyone wants to hear, but I think it's One of the four, what I call the four gateways of true psychic or energetic activation in that there's four things [00:28:00] that there's more than four, but there's probably kind of more four main things that people will do. so for me, I realized very early on, I needed to detox my body. And if you want to get totally truthful during that stage, I would literally go into this meditation and I had encountered literal extraterrestrial that would try to talk to me and tell me things and I could not understand it. They would say things to me and I'd be like, what, what? I would ask a million questions. And I remember at one time in particular, this mantis being that showed up to my left, like a gigantic praying mantis literally blasted into my body. It was like every cell within me felt it. It was, and they said, purify your body. And I was like, what do you mean? I don't understand. But they were telling me to detox myself.

Yeah.

first I had to detox. Secondly, I had to do another thing. I had to develop a language with which to communicate with spirit. And I call [00:29:00] that the second gateway, which is divination. And so for me, I picked up tarot, which is weird because I never took a tarot class.

I just literally started reading tarot. I don't know how the hell I did it. I had help from spirit, and I had, you know, I had kind of a teacher that showed me the way. And so, I had to figure out a method through which to speak to spirit in order to continue to demonstrate and help people understand the manner in which spirit was speaking through them. I needed to develop a language through which I could, you know, show and say, here, look, this means this, that means that. When we see these signals and these signs, it means that spirit is telling us this thing or that thing. And so that was gateway number two. Gateway number three was that I had to begin learning about the non physical body. which means our chakras, our meridians, the layers of energy around our organs. I had to learn how to work with those things. That's often a stage where people start doing things like Reiki or other forms of energy healing. You know, it's kind of where I started to pick those things up. I learned about energetic anatomy, but then I came to step four, which I think really answers the question of how [00:30:00] did I know when this was going to be a thing that I was supposed to do?

And what did I do to make it grow stronger? And that is when I started doing Qi Gong. Which I call the fourth gateway is energy body cultivation. is the number, in my opinion and experience rather, the number one defining factor for those that truly want to open up multi dimensionality within the body, within the mind, whether you're using it for yourself or other people. Unless you can cultivate the life force essence inside you, you will eventually run dry. You'll eventually wither, you'll only go so far. You'll plateau at a certain stage. You'll learn a few things and then just stay that way. And the defining factor for people to do this professionally or people that do it on a much greater level is that they will begin to cultivate the energy.

And so that's really the turning point for me very early on. I started doing Qigong. it is something that I still do to this very day, just today, actually, before I was doing a session. I was like, I have to do this Qigong [00:31:00] warm up thing that I do. And so I think that's probably the most valuable skill that I picked up in the journey of learning.

This was what I was going to do in energy body cultivation. So I hope that answers it. It's probably

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was getting to in all my in all my stammering. I was like, yeah, that's, that's what I was trying to get to. Cool. So like that, that she gone You know, I, I've definitely been on my own journey with Qigong. What like is there a certain teacher that you learned from?

Did you pick it up on YouTube? Did you, how did you find what you practice today? And why do you practice what you practice today

Very good question.

the, against all the other forms that you may have learned?

That's good. Honestly, I was shown by a friend. I've never taken a class in Qigong. I never worked with a Qigong master, which I think is really good. If you can, if you can, it'll absolutely [00:32:00] supercharge your developmental process for me. I met a guy named Eric Rains, who some people have heard of. He was the first example of a professional energy worker that I've ever encountered in this life.

And one of the first things he showed me was like, Hey, you should do Qigong. And I was like, Qigong? I don't even know what that is. And so he just showed me a few things, which I guess if you want to get technical in terms of style or schools or Qigong sub modalities, I think they were very simplified versions of what we call Shaolin Qi Kung. is just another kind of offshoot and really what it was was just a process of opening up the you know the auric field around the body and continuing to bring energy from above and below and so honestly i just looked up a few other things on youtube which is an incredible resource when you're starting to do energy body cultivation because you can just search easy beginner qigong and you'll get 20 million videos and some of them are horrible some of them are epic tell people this literally in sessions that I do.

I'm like, just go on YouTube, search for [00:33:00] beginner Qigong and keep looking until you find a person that you like the way they look and you like the way they're moving. And you know that you can mimic them because that's literally what I did at every stage of the game. I mimic those who I saw were doing real work, even when it came to out of body experiences with multidimensional beings. I saw them doing a certain thing or I heard them doing a certain thing and like, I came back into this here and now and I was like, what if, what if, what if I what if I do it the way they were doing it? And so for me, I just copied other people. I just kind of jumped in and moved along with what I saw them doing. and inevitably though. As I changed everything, I would take little bits of this or little bits of that, that kind of work. What if I did this breath with it? What if I kind of gently modified this, which some purists in the world of qigong will say, nope, we follow a certain method in a certain way.

And you do things in a certain timing and a certain movement. And. Which I think is very wise. I think there's a tremendous, there's a great lineage of [00:34:00] all kinds of tradition behind it, but for me, the greatest change came when I was willing to take a little bit of everyone and turn it into something of my own. And so now I don't know what style I do. I just do a couple. the three or four different movements and continue to repeat them. I mix it with what I call just visceral body manipulation, which includes organ resetting and palpating of certain areas of the body. Places like liver and spleen and our intestines.

And it's, it's kind of a hybrid, I guess I've kind of created my own method. that answers anything, you know,

Cool.

What

so obviously qigong is, is part of your kind of daily practice, right? What

what else you can get? You can, you can answer this to whatever, you know, depth or extent you want. But what else is your day is kind of your daily [00:35:00] or what's part of your daily or weekly practice, especially as a, you know, a healer as an energy practitioner, what, what have you found over the years that like, you need to do to keep yourself, you know, there instead of falling there?

Because personally, I will do work. And I will do work you know, for a couple months, you know, at this level and I'll get myself feeling good. And then something, you know, life will get in the way and I'll let things go. And I slowly start to get back to here. And I don't really realize it until I hit not bottom, but I hit like, you know, an emotional situation where I'm like, Oh, God, I need to start doing Qigong again, like every day, every day.

And what, what other disciplines or practices do you work into your daily?[00:36:00] 

it's a good question. I think one of the most important things I have learned to do, which is actually still a thing that I do pretty much every day, or rather I will say on the days in which I'm working with people, which lately is every day not always a good thing, but lately it's every day. I think we must learn to meditate in true silence.

I think if you, if you're one of those people out there that really wants to learn how to connect with spirit or nonphysical energies on a real substantial level, we must learn to develop a practice of regular meditation, which can take many forms many different versions of it. But for me, It involves sitting in utter and complete silence, putting away devices, not looking at a screen, and just sitting there and giving myself a place for spirit to connect with you, almost like you create a meeting place, you're like, this day at this time, I'm going to remain in utter silence, and I'm going to wait. And you will allow every thought form, all the emotions, all the desires, all the craziness within the mind's eye [00:37:00] to just roll through you. Then you'll give yourself an opportunity to connect with an energy that's outside of yourself. And so for me, it's been daily meditation. I'm also a big believer in personal ritual and ceremony, which I think for some people, some people hear that and they're like, well, what do you mean rituals?

Well, what kind of ceremonies are we talking about? Really it's also similar to meditation and that I will light candles. I will create a little bit of an altar. It's not like it's dedicated to, you know, any one being or any like ascended master. It's really just, it's like a place and a time in which I will ceremoniously connect with spirit and then allow it shows up within the mind's eye, which if for people are wondering, well, how will they speak to you?

It is through the inner dialogue within your own head. It is through the imagery within inside the body within the mind's eye. It is through the cyclical memories and experiences that roll through your inner world. And so I'm a big believer that if you really want to connect with spirit, You need to [00:38:00] learn to operate in silence right now in the work that I do where we're doing this 90 day activation group I have a group of nine people where we meet a couple times a week and we do certain processes and one of the main things that we do aside from Qigong is we just meditate in silence. literally just allowing what shows up. I think that there is an incredible value in that. And I think our modern world is trained to remove us from silence, to remove us from stillness. And so I think when you really want to embrace the path of a true mystic or a healer or an energetic practitioner, whatever new age term you want to add to it, you must learn to cultivate silence, just like you're going to cultivate your energy body.

And maybe that's just me. But I think within that, I think another word that I would add to it would be prayer. Which is also, it's like people are like, well, what do you mean by prayer? You mean like to Jesus, you mean like, you know, like in Catholic church, you mean like, you know, maybe, but what I mean is that [00:39:00] you will learn to create this running dialogue with spirit as you understand it, whether you want to call it God or, you know, whatever. the mini so called gods, like you must learn to converse with that in your own way. And so I kind of do this process of prayer where I will intentionally within my mind kind of connect and, kind of ceremoniously open a door for them to speak. And so we can say that I, you know, I do that.

Let me think. Is there another thing in there? Probably, probably there's other stuff, but I think that that's, that's kind of like the bulk of it. I, I have noticed that I actually hear, I will add one other thing, which some people don't like to hear. The earlier versions of myself didn't like to hear this as well. I think that living a life of sobriety is a very, very big thing. And I don't mean, 24 hour a day, every single day, you're totally, utterly, bitterly sober. But I've just noticed that for me, it's been one of the most useful things. And I've been both sober and not [00:40:00] sober when I do this work. And what I've just noticed over the years is that that is a thing that I have learned to kind of cultivate.

Where it's like you remove all the external chemicals. Which is not always the best thing. I think there's definitely a time and place for them. I'm not a staunch like complete straight edge person. I don't think it's necessary, but I think for those that want to become a true mystic or learn how to connect with spirit on a dedicated level, you do have to be able to create a completely clean slate. which you are uninfluenced by external chemicals. That's not to say we won't be influenced by food or what we drink, because we will, it's just natural. But I don't, at this stage at least, I don't use any additional anything else other than, I don't know, maybe coffee. You know, it's kind of as far as I go, which is kind of boring for me to hear.

I hear myself at age 47 saying this and I'm like, whoa, really? Dang it. That's boring. But it is. It's real. That's how we roll. So

Yeah.

that helps. I hope it makes sense.

[00:41:00] Yeah. What about what about food? What do you, do you keep a strict diet or?

Well, it's a good it's another good question. Oh, man. I wouldn't say I call it strict I know that there's at this stage and maybe it's just age, you know, I mean i'm not even that old but I, I'm definitely not an advocate or a person that believes we need to be vegan or vegetarian in order to keep our vibration high enough to connect with spirit.

Although there's a lot of people out there that are going to tell you like, you know, if you do this meatless, totally vegan diet You know, the vibration of your body will change and it'll make it easier for you to connect. And I think there's a lot of value in that. I have, there's been a lot of stages in this human journey where I did stop eating meat and we were vegan for a while.

And I think there's a value in it. But at this stage of the journey and doing what I do every day, I think when you start actually coming to the stage in which you're really moving energy within yourself and others, and in order to move energy within others, we have to be able to move it within ourselves. [00:42:00] I have noticed that there's a very particular element of blood that needs to be cultivated in the body. I mean, if you want to get technical chi moves with blood and I think in order for our blood to have the strength and charge that it needs. I know for me it requires, no, I shouldn't say require, but I choose to eat meat. That, that, that said, you know, I'm much more of an omnivore at this stage rather than a pure carnivore, but I think we definitely, have learned over the years to moderate what I eat because I think for a long time I was, you know, still eating a lot of like kind of seed oils and certain layers of sugar and just like modified or, you know, processed foods, which everyone knows at this stage, it's old news.

We're like, well, yeah, those are toxic. Yeah, no, they definitely are. when you, when you work with spirit on a professional level, you will inevitably come to a stage in which you're like, that shit doesn't really work the way it used to. And so I'm not saying that I have a super strict diet, but I definitely do not eat a lot of processed foods or sugars in the way that I once [00:43:00] did, but I gotta be real.

When I say that, it's not necessarily because I come from a holier than thou, I must keep my vibration high type perspective. It's more because my body can't really handle them anymore. I will literally feel sick if I do. So, you know, I'm not doing it from like some position of higher spiritual authority to maintain this clean temple.

It's more like, well, I can't handle it. I can't really with it otherwise. So yeah, I guess there is a particular diet, I guess we could say it's just cleaner if you want to go that way.

Yeah. Cool. So I think I know, I think I know the answer to this, but maybe not. I'll, so I'll ask it anyway.

It's

Do you have any type of, of ongoing coaches or healers or gurus [00:44:00] that you work with

Ooh, good question, man. I'll be.

you? I'll say either, you know, in the physical or, or not in the physical.

Well, I can tell you this much. In the physical world, I wish I did. I really, really do. There is, and maybe I'm wrong, I'm trying to jog my memory, but there is pretty much no one that I currently see as a mentor or a person that I aspire to be like or that I am currently learning from. And I have to be real.

There's been very few people since I started doing this work in 2017, maybe two or three out of every single thousands of people that I've encountered that I would even consider turning to for guidance or understanding, which I'm not going to say that's a good way to be. I'm not saying that's the right way to do it. But what I have learned in my journey is that, you know, I used to seek help. I used to seek guidance from people. And a thing that I picked up [00:45:00] very early on was that my experiences didn't really match with a lot of people that I encountered as acquaintances or people that were doing this path alongside me. And what I learned was that, at least from my experience, was that I had to become that for myself. I had to learn in some way to become that version that kept me anchored. And I think for me, what it caused me to do was turn to spirit, to turn to the guides that I work with. And so, you know, from a physical perspective, no, there's literally no one who I turned to and go, you know, I would like to hear what that person has to say.

I think there's people who I deeply respect and I will look at their work and go like, yeah, totally. I feel you. You know, but nobody that I see guidance from and I, you know, I wish I could say otherwise now on the spirit side. One thing that I have have learned or come to accept about myself. And this is the thing I've seen with other people is I think when when there is a certain lack of physical representation of that path of [00:46:00] mentorship or teacher or guide. Spirit will show up in their own way. And it's funny. I've been writing about this in the books that I had just recently written. And that is that I believe I'm a really good example of a person that was educated by spirit. was brought into this by spirit. I was trained by spirit. I was given anchor points and little pieces of things from certain people that I've encountered in this life. ultimately I, I, I call it, you know, maybe a higher self counsel or a set of beings and guides that show up in the readings and things that I do that, you know, for some people, this sounds like mental illness, which is fine, but they speak to me in, in, you know, the mind's eye. It's like an auditory thing that I experienced when I'm working with people.

And so, who they are is a big question. I've seen a number of different forms over the of years in which I've been doing this, and some of them have been human. I think there is a big stage where I was doing a lot of meridian work and working [00:47:00] specifically with channels in the body, which I still do, but there was a stage in which it was exploding. what I began to perceive was an actual network of doctors, which sounds crazy to some people, because I'm not a doctor in this life. I don't try to be, I don't profess to be one. But. One of the things I learned was that there was actually a series or like a collective of that kind of, you know, spiritual representation that would show up and would literally tell me things about the organs.

They would tell me things about pathways in the body that would literally look at people and be like, I would know suddenly all kinds of medical data and terminology about people that I had never learned in this life. And so there was a network of kind of like what I call spirit doctors that showed up. One of the really weird ones came in the form of a reptilian which has worked with me in many, many, many different lifetimes. I think actual flesh and blood, literal reptilian beings, not saying that they are always interacting with me as a flesh and blood reptilian being. I think they come in many different forms and they work [00:48:00] with a lot of people on the earth plane. Which some people don't like to hear because we're trained to believe that reptilians are the primary tormentors of humans, you know, we only see them as negative beings. I think is a very poor and surface level assumption that we make as humans. But I'll tell you one of the ways in which they show up for a lot of people in our community, and some people hate to hear this. They show up saying they're Archangel Michael. Because everyone's like, Archangel Michael, oh God, you know? And so when encounter that presence in a context of a healing or a spiritual scenario, they're gonna be like, oh yeah, well that's good, right? Archangel Michael, yeah, let's connect with him. And so what I've learned is Archangel Michael is the same.

number one most fake spiritual presence. It's the number one biggest imposter energy. beings of light will show up and be like, I'm Archangel Michael. And when in reality, is there an earthbound reptilian in the inner earth who's actually divulging very pertinent and real data that can have a profoundly [00:49:00] positive effect on other people. And in other cases, you'll find a very archonic, negative form of energy that'll come in and say, I'm Archangel Michael. And people go, okay, I'll do what you say. And even within that context, Negative beings will at times lead to very positive results. I'm not saying always cause in some cases they really just want to destroy your energy field, but there's been a lot of reptilian energies that have come through.

There's been a number of what I call like a praying mantis type of alien beings that have showed up. In fact, the first conscious extraterrestrial experience I ever had was with a literal like probably like 12 foot tall praying mantis being showed up in the corner of my room. And when I say showed up, I mean, like, not in an out of body state, I mean, like, with your eyes open and you're like, holy shit, there's a literal, literal praying mantis being sitting in the corner of my room right now. That's how it was for me, you know, I'm not saying he was flesh and blood there, maybe it was the projection of his energy that I physically saw with my [00:50:00] eyes open, but that is one. has showed up many different times. They called themselves Ezekiel. Showed up another time, and they called themselves Atma. Which, if anyone wants to Google what does Atma mean, it is the higher self. Literally is what it means. And so, it's like, a number of different beings. I could go on and on about it, but those are the main ones that have shown up. So.

Wow. Yeah, I've definitely I've definitely heard about a lot of people's different stories about that. Unfortunately what, what make, gives it a lot of credence is that a good number of the people that come forth claiming to channel Archangel Michael, the things they say is like, there is this, like, holy, like, just, I'll just say, It does not resonate at all and just kind of clashes with my own inner [00:51:00] intuitive voice, you know,

Right? It

I totally

so that to take that a step further, it's like there's Archangel Michael, but there's also, you know, all these other angels.

And it's interesting that, you know, Archangel Michael is such a repetitive voice, but have you, have you heard similar things about Mettatron?

Yeah. Metatron is also a really fun one that I think a lot of people connect with as I would call like a representation of What Rudolf Steiner called the eighth sphere, is essentially a field of energy that exists within what some people call lower astral planes, although that's a very catch all term, not all the lower astral planes are pure evil. What it is, is essentially a place in which, you know, man made human consciousness that does not represent the higher realms goes to live and [00:52:00] it stays there and exists. within this eight sphere realm in which a lot of what we would call like the false light constructs meaning meaning kind of forms of intelligence that human human consciousness has created Things like the archangel michael imposters the archangel metatron It's it's funny because a lot of people really greatly rely upon and and have a lot of love for the archangels And I think in some ways that's wise but you know I think for for those of us that have done this work for any period of time and You Maybe even yourself in your own travels and your own experiences. Most of the representations of those energy have just been like rehash conglomerations of things we've heard from other people. It just, it shows up through the lens of Archangel Metatron or Archangel Michael. And so people just instantly swallow it. What I've seen of the archangels is that they are beings just like us also very different from us, but they have agendas, they have shadow selves, they have [00:53:00] literal equally powerful demonic aspect. That also exists and if you really want to dive into it for people that will eventually see this or even yourself What you will find is that there is actually a goetian demon that corresponds with each archangel as well so it's like you're going to get both of those But one thing i've learned about archangel metatron is that it's just not an energy that I choose to connect with I've heard probably some of the most spiritual bullshit channeled through people that are professing to be connecting with archangel metatron and You I, I, I just, it's, it's, it's not an energy that I, I really put a lot of value into

Right.

it's not real, not saying you can't do good things, not saying, you know, really anything other than that.

I just think a lot of what we've been trained to receive as people within a spiritual community has been filtered through our own consciousness. through the gateway that many people call the eighth sphere. And I think it's a really cool thing to begin to research, not that I know that much about [00:54:00] it, but when I learned about the concept of the eighth sphere, it really made a lot of sense because it's where a lot of the, our, our, our, our consciousness, or unconsciously created things go to kind of this non physical space.

And I think it's a layer that everyone learns to break through in their own spiritual journey of doing this kind of work. And anyway, not to go on and on about it, but yeah, I kind of see Archangel Metatron the same way I see Archangel Michael, which is that they can do good work. Or it could just be an extension of your own consciousness that needs to be heard.

And so it'll say, I'm Archangel Metatron, and then you'll place way more importance on it, right? Cause it says

Right.

where like, if you really think about it, even if it was a demon, which is also a very, very loaded term, when you truly begin to understand what demons are, you will also begin to understand that some people don't like to hear this, but they're not. all evil. And some of them will actually do [00:55:00] incredibly helpful work for humans. The problem that comes with that is if you are unable to receive them, if you have majorly unhealed shadow aspects within your own self, that energy can also wreak terrible havoc on your life. And at the same time, those energies are very, what we would call service to self. So they also have their own agenda. They want a certain thing as well. And it's not always what we want to connect with. And so, you know, I, it's a very, very loaded bag. When we go into that realm and I don't know, I just, I, I enter with pure caution and really only connect with the higher self when I'm doing sessions with people I have, I have never, and probably hopefully maybe we'll never call in any form of higher consciousness like archangels or ascended masters or galactic federations or pleiadians.

Not to say none of those things are real. Cause they're all real in their own way. I just, I think our greatest source. healing or connection is through our own conscious connection [00:56:00] with what we would call the one infinite creator within us. And so, know, some people don't like to hear that because it also, you know, bypasses what they've learned to believe as the holiest source in the world, which, you know, will be Jesus or God or, you know, whatever you want to call it. Which are also equally real at the same time. And so anyway, I can go on and on about it.

Yeah. Yeah.

I hope it makes

So, so just to be to, I don't want to kill this, but

It can't be real.

take it one, one step, one step more for me,

Yeah.

it's, it's probably the one being that I have had the most conflict with as far as my own discernment. And that's Thoth.

Oh

So in the past, I'd say the past five years, there's, there's been numerous people coming out that say that there is like that Thoth is you know, Thoth, aka [00:57:00] Hermes aka what's his his Roman alter ego?

Shoot. The planet? What's the planet? The small planet? I can't believe I believe it. I forget it. No, it starts with an M.

Mercury.

that for me, it says, yeah, mercury, mercury, mercury is an aspect of Hermes and Hermes is been said by many people. I don't know the origin of that correspondence, but Hermes is also Thoth.

And Thoth is the Atlantean, you know, Thoth the Atlantean, but there are people that are into the, you know, the whole galactic history kind of stuff that say that Thoth has, is, is not benevolent. He's not. In other words, he has his own, he has his own agenda. Have you heard anything about that?

I certainly have. [00:58:00] And I believe that I have encountered that energy. I know everyone knows him a little bit differently. I actually call him Toth, maybe that's just cause

Yeah.

I kind of heard it in my head. So I was like, Oh, Thoth, Toth, I guess it's the same thing. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. I'm not

Yeah. It is. Yeah. I would say we're talking about the same dude. Jehudi. He goes by like, you know, hundreds of names.

to me, number one, yes, absolutely, literally real. Now. I think to try to judge the polarity of that consciousness might be kind of a foolhardy thing, because I think when we really look at the nature of true multi dimensional consciousness and those beings that have persisted throughout time and space, whose consciousness is still represented numerous teachings and numerous kind of, you know, spiritual, you know, passageways and connection points, I, I don't think that it's, it's an energy energy. Or at least when we talk about Toth or Thoth, I don't think it's something that can be whittled down to. [00:59:00] Well, is it good or is it bad? Is it holy? Is it evil? Is it demonic? Is it angelic? I think that when you come to the stage in which your consciousness has persisted throughout many different, you know, epochs, if you want to call it that, all of those. It's going to be all of them. And for some people it's going to be very negative and it's going to be a punishing energy and it's going to lead you astray. And, you know, a lot of people think that, you know, Toth, you know, took, you know, the, the, the, the Emerald tablets and change them, or, you know, there's all kinds of different schools of thought surrounding that. you know, some of it could be true. And I, I would like to think that when you come to that stage, like I just said, you're going to be all of those things. And I think it is more dependent upon. The individual that is receiving that energy, soul's resonance, their soul signature, their innate darkness, their unknown darkness, their own abilities, their own alignments, and I think for some people you're going to encounter Thoth in an astral state, and it's going to be very [01:00:00] negative, and other people are going to encounter Thoth, and it's going to be this incredible teaching being. I have actually encountered the, the, the being known as Osiris. I've had direct conversations with this energy. I have also had direct conversations with a couple of other Egyptian so called deities. One of them is Sobek, which is a literal gigantic crocodile, crocodilian reptile being who people are like, what are you talking about?

That dude's pure evil. And I can only say that the encounters that I have had with Osiris and Sobek have been anything but that. been never at any stage that they say, we desire blood. We desire vengeance. We desire hatred that has never been reflected through my encounters with them, is why I think it really depends upon who the person is that's connecting with it.

And I, which is, which is why I think a lot of people have also hard times with, you know, certain archangels as well, because I think if you're a container or if you're a frequency or, or if you're [01:01:00] alignment, upon the many versions of you that are currently coexisting in a number of different dimensions. If, if they are unhealed, if they are, if they lack knowledge of self, if we do not understand who and what we truly are, when we connect with those energies like Toth, or Osiris, or you know, any other of these other beings that currently exist in the astral realms, you're going to connect with them, and you can have a very potentially negative encounter. Or you can be led astray because of the lack of clarity within your own container, within your own kind of, maybe even your, your own mental body. And so I think it really depends upon the beholder, but honestly, I think Todd has a lot to teach us. I think that all of these energies have a lot to teach us, honestly, if you want to even get super technical, I think there are some, what many people might even call demonic beings that are anything but that. That also have a hell of a lot to teach humans, but not everyone's ready to receive it. And so I think it really depends on [01:02:00] the amount of, the amount of shadow work that we've done, of knowledge of self that you have the amount of self healing that you've done. It's like, how well do you know yourself?

Cause I can tell you that some of these archangels will literally rip you to shreds and lead you down a very, very negative path, but not people are, a lot of people are ready to receive that. lot of people will want to connect. I think another one that often gets a bad rap is the archangel known as Razael, who, you know, for those that know that they'll know that, you know, Razael, supposedly the keeper of, you know, the knowledge, the keeper of knowledge of all these realms.

And some people say it's a very, very negative energy. I've also encountered Razael. It was honestly the first angelic presence I ever encountered was Razael and it was nothing but positive for me. So I'm like I don't know how to, you know, tell people that whether they're good or bad. I think it depends upon the beholder.

And anyway, I'll kind of pause it there. Hopefully you get

That's, that's crazy. Cause [01:03:00] that's the same here. Same thing with me. Raziel, Raziel was the first angelic

That's

being that, at least he was the first angelic being that that told me his name. And, and

Dang,

before that, before that I had never heard Raziel. You know, I wasn't into, I was 17. I wasn't into any, any of this stuff at all.

And I just write it, started writing a story. And I needed the name for an angel in the story, and I just made up a name, and that's the name I made up, and then, and then you know, maybe a couple years later, I had, you know, a couple, a couple of brief situations with him. Yeah, that's crazy though.

believe it, man. I absolutely believe it. I also believe that if you encountered that energy through seemingly [01:04:00] organic means, meaning maybe you were writing a story and it just popped up in your head, I think it is because that energy is connected with you. I think because you've probably done work with it on other planes or other lifetimes or maybe currently are. I think the names that show up in times like that. Are anything but random and in many cases it's because they're an energy that's hanging around and you'll be like, Oh, I'm going to write this story about an angel. And they're like, which was literally how it showed up for me at a super early stage of the journey.

When I was going through all that crazy activation, like I told you in 2015, which I was literally out of my mind for two years, I was not cool. I was not heroic. I was horrible. was not, it was not good. I wish I could say it was, but it wasn't. But during that stage, literally, I remember a very similar scenario.

I wasn't writing a story. I was just trying to understand what was going on in my head. And literally I heard the name Razael and I was like, But who, [01:05:00] what, what is this? And I actually had to go research it. I was like, who's Razael? I don't even understand. It's funny. Cause I was at the gym the day that it happened.

I was running on a treadmill. Well, actually I was just kind of walking rapidly and I was like sweating and I was like Razael in my head and I was like, what the hell is this? And I asked in my head, what are you? What is this? And it's crazy. Cause right at that moment. A woman got on the treadmill in front of me, and she was wearing this California, there used to be the California angels.

She was literally wearing an angel sweatshirt, and it said angel on the back of her, and I was like, what? How? so I ended up going home and Googling it, and it was like, Razael is an archangel, and I was like, okay. Boom, there you go. And so they'll show up like that, man. To me, that's the way you are describing it.

That's an organic occurrence where that energy showed up. It was like, yeah, let's talk, write a story about me. You know,

[01:06:00] Cool.

So I know you do like part of what you do, at least in, I'm in one of your groups and what we do sometimes is like clearings, right? Those are cool. Those can be really powerful.

Thanks. Yeah.

 Hopefully this, this helps other people out there. From just naturally from growing up I would start to, I would start to have I guess it would be like in the dream state.

And then coming in and out of the dream state, I would start to interface with different spirits. And there was a time in my early twenties when I was getting attacked a lot and they would come up to me and they would attack me. There, there's, there's the type of being that does a fake attack. a fake attack because it just wants to [01:07:00] scare you and draw out the fear.

And then there's a type of being that is really trying to attack you. It's really trying to mess you up energetically. It's not trying to, you know, it's not trying to possess you. It's not even trying, it's not even trying to attach, like attach itself to you. But usually what it's agenda is after, you know, dozens and dozens of these situations is they're, they're trying to mess up your energy, your energy field.

And then, you know, the fear is also a thing, but they're trying to test your energy field. So naturally when I, when growing up I, I noticed that I had three points that were really strong. And I knew that they were really strong because when I would get attacked, [01:08:00] you know, these entities would come up against like a shield, basically a natural shield that was in front of me.

I'm not into really creating shields.

Me

not against it either, but I, it's not a practice that I keep and it's never a practice that I kept, but there were these shields. There was like a shield in front of me. And there were some particular entities that over A number of years, they would always come back and test these shields.

And I know this sounds freaking crazy, but it's how I became aware of them. Is, is these entities coming up and attacking them and they're like, and they would comment too, they would say, you know, I forgot the words they would use, but it's to the effect of like you know, we're gonna get, we're gonna get you these, these are, these are strong.

You're strong now, but you're not always going to [01:09:00] be strong. And I'm like, oh, okay, screw you. See you later.

Totally.

And and so I didn't, I never really thought of that. Like, you know, fast forward 20 years plus I never really thought of that until I came. I, I took one of your courses and You're talking about there's, well, there's the solar plexus, right?

But then you are only one of the only teachers that I found out there that would teach, taught also about the, the you probably can't, can't see me, but like the, the bottom of the rib, rib cage on the left, you know, the right and left side those two spots. were the exact spots that they, that the, the, these entities would press and try to [01:10:00] like find an angle

Hell

and get around and they could never, you know, they could never do it.

Actually, they did eventually break through. Like when I was in my thirties, I was drinking, I was, you know not healthy at all. And yes, they eventually did break through. 

Or the left?

they broke through on the on my left,

Oh, okay, okay.

they broke through on my left, but it eventually like very quickly they broke through the left and they broke through the right and ever since then, I've never been able to recreate that shield.

Oh.

Then I said, then, you know, I took your courses and maybe I, it's just something I need to focus on for a prolonged period of time. And it's also an awareness thing. [01:11:00] Like I'm kind of numb in those places. And I don't really feel it. So I think it, but what would you, is this, what, what are your thoughts on this?

First off, definitely real. Secondly, I am not an advocate of daily shielding. I know some people are like, you have to have your shields up, you have to create shields, you have to put a layer of light around your body, you have to create a sphere of energy or a column, and I'm like, yeah, those are all cool. When I started doing this work, I believed in it, and I tried to do that, and none of it worked. Didn't have a single effect on me. It did literally nothing me. and I feel very, very exposed. Honestly, Qigong was the thing that helped me create, I think, a natural shield. If you want to learn how to create a natural one, you will cultivate the energy body.

Those that do will find they never need any kind of shielding. You don't need anything. What you need is emotional and mental sovereignty within the body. But when you talk about those two places on the right, [01:12:00] those are also very important. I don't hear, I still don't, After almost eight years of doing this work professionally, I don't see anybody in this so called disclosure, new age, star scene, world scene, whatever you want to call it, that still talk, nobody talks about those places.

I am the only one, and maybe there's other people, and I, you know, I just haven't encountered them. I'm in kind of a bubble, so I'm sure, I know there's other people that do, but what I'm referring to when I talk about those places are very, for me at least, their chakra points that correspond with our organs. The one on the right has to do with the gallbladder and the liver chakra, which is a place they broke through on me. That was the one. They hit me there and it led me into all kinds of addictions and all kinds of like anger and like frustration and just crazy, crazy stuff. And then other people get it more on the left, which is going to be more kind of more for the physical body, I would say. It's also more for emotional well being. It's also more for [01:13:00] outlook and your ability to endure and try. And that has to do with the spleen chakra and also the pancreas, if you want to get technical. And so some people will have more of a weakness on that side. And it's normal that we'll get affected more on one side or the other.

I actually see more people get it on the left than the right. There's other reasons for that on the left side. There's things that kind of have to do with the energy body. Some people call them J seals if you want to go down that road, but what it essentially are just kind of a different form of energetic infrastructure that tends to line the left side of the body.

It's a little bit different from the right. But those are very, very real. And I, I usually filter that energy in and out of the body through the layers of energy around the organs. So, you know, we have spleen and pancreas more so on the left and we have gallbladder and liver on the right. And those are the, some of the most commonly affected places for people. that will get hit by if you want to call it an astral parasite [01:14:00] or some kind of entity or some kind of non physical being. I think they're commonly affected because not that many people take great care to strengthen those parts of their body and I think also they're commonly affected because just the ways in which we treat our body in the human realm.

You know what I mean? We're absorbing all kinds of toxins. That'll be the right side. We're also weakening the blood and affecting our blood sugar. That'll be the left side and so We find people will have, you know, maybe more of a weakness on one side of the other. I know for me, still, I am very much liver and gallbladder type, whereas other people are much more splenic or, or pancreas or stomach related, which for some people will show up in cases of people will have like food stuff or they'll, they'll, they'll have, you know, sometimes eating disorders or certain manifestations of the physical and emotional body that will coagulate on the left side. Whereas people like me will get it more on the right side and they'll become more angry and more [01:15:00] bitter and Sometimes more aggressive at stages. That's more of the manifestations of the right side And then there's also kind of ancestral things Which will hold a lot more of our mother's bloodline or feminine ancestry on the left side and we hold a lot more Masculine ancestry and our father's bloodline on the right side yet at the same time. There's people in which that's flip flopped So you can be holding way more masculine energy on the left side as well. What you notice, I think when it comes to those access points on the body of which there are many more, there's a lot more than just those places, but you'll, you'll notice there's always an exception. As soon as you, whenever you're doing kind of, you know, regular energetic or spiritual work, you'll always be trained to be like, Oh, that's always this, or it's always that. As soon as you say, it's always this spirit will come in and they'll be like, Oh yeah, show you. And there will always be an exception to every single rule. So it's like, you're learning to understand that you can be both equally wrong and [01:16:00] right in any given scenario, but But we do understand that there's patterns and that, and I think we, we see a lot of people will gather energy in those places. And I don't know if that's really answering what you asked, but

Yeah. Yeah.

very real.

Cool. So do you think a practice of like,

like if I did some type of meditation where you know, focusing on those areas, Would, would help bring, you know, more energy to the, to that spot.

I think you could, but

It, would it be valuable to like clear that and like get the energy flowing? Obviously it would overall anyway, but is there any value of, of like setting up some type of protocol where I'm just focusing on those spots to try to build the [01:17:00] energy right there?

There, there, there definitely is, and for some people it'll work really well, for others they're going to have to find their own way. I use a series of phrases, or some, some people call them mantras, I call them capsule phrases that I use to dilate energy centers within the body, or to open up layers of energy around the organs. which I think you and I have encountered in the sessions that we've done, where it's like, well, vibrate open certain areas, that's one way to do it. I also use certain movements in Qigong that I've modified over the years where I'll kind of bring breath in and out and I will focus on those areas. And I will like continue to stir the energy around and then press it out of the body using breath. That's another way to do it. For other people though and this may or may not be you, I can tell you it was for me when this started though, is that we need to clear up the physical body. We will need to clear our blood.

We will need to feed ourselves differently. We will need to generate strength within the [01:18:00] physical body. For some people it's literally that you will need to get in better physical shape, which is the other side of the three pointed pyramid, you know, where it's like mind, body, and spirit. what you find within a lot of spiritual communities is that they focus on, you know, the spirit and the mind and they totally leave out the body or they focus on, you know, other areas of it. And so it's going to be a particular mixture for each and every person. But I just know for me over the years that those areas have responded much more to physical, you know, strengthening of the body more than anything else.

Cool.

Totally.

Good to know. Yes. I need to focus on that. Start focusing on that. Yeah, I think I think that's it on my end. 

Thank you. These are all really good questions, by [01:19:00] the way. It's very, it's really good. Thank you.

what I know you have, you know, so I know you have some video courses out there. Do you you know, do you want to direct? Is there a place that people can find those?

So yeah, right now we have, I think there's four, there's four courses. of basically every year since 2019, I've been doing a series of classes and one of those is about learning to open up and work with the chakra body. Another one is about learning to open up and work with the meridian body. Another one has to do with learning to read tarot, which for me, that's the form of divination that I grabbed onto the best and that's the one I still use, but there's a million different forms of it. and so, and then I think we have another fourth course, which is a very short, it's, I think it's like eight or actually I think it's 16 hours.

I don't know how long it is, but it's shorter than the others. And that I call it kind of a psychic defense course. What it really is, is an information download, a Qigong routine [01:20:00] and an energy clearing process. those are all available for purchase. They are on Vimeo because YouTube would not let me upload them.

I don't know why they just wouldn't, YouTube wouldn't let us do it. Yeah. So they're on Vimeo and it's on Vimeo on demand and you can just search for remember your mission, which is the kind of the access name for everything that we do online on Vimeo. We have courses at Vimeo on demand slash remember your mission. YouTube. 

YouTube is the best place where you can find this that remember your mission. And then also the website is rememberyourmission. com. And just real quickly before you go, I will say why, why is it all called remember your mission?

It's not a cheesy tagline. It's not some kind of cool, you know, URL that I tried to develop. because in summer of 2017. was under such incredible energetic pressure. My body had been so ripped open. I was [01:21:00] experiencing so many different forms of multidimensional weirdness that there was one day in particular in which a number of beings and sort of energy showed up. And I was literally fell on my hands and knees in the backyard of my house in San Diego, California in 2017. And I heard in my head this phrase and it sounds so cheesy, but it was literally what they said. They said, Matthew, you have a mission. It is time to remember. And for some reason that stuck with me.

It just hit me like an arrow in my heart. And I was like, Okay, I'll do it. You know, I was literally crying, just pouring tears. Like, I don't know what that is, but I'll do it. And so that's why everything's called remembering mission because that's literally what they told me when this started. So there you go.

Same

I had a I think it was 2017. I went and saw a a psychic. She called herself an [01:22:00] oracle, totally random. And I go and see her and and like, it was only, it was like a really short reading. And she's like, yeah, basically. You need to remember who you are. You need to remember who you are, like meditation exercise you know, breath work, whatev whatever you need to, whatever you, wherever your journey takes you.

That's your goal. You need to remember who you are. I'm like, for some reason that stunned me silent, I had no more questions for her. And I was like, Oh, that's for real. And this is, this is 2017. I psychically kind of woke up. in 1994. So I went through some heavy trauma in the 90s, but that's a [01:23:00] whole other story.

That was a wild time

yeah.

everything was simpler and more confused.

Yeah. You have, you, you have Patreons too. I, I mentioned that those,

yeah, yeah. We got the Patreon group. Yeah, that's actually the only one that has a different name. But although you can find us at Remember Your Mission on Patreon too, but it's called the Blue Flame Collective. So

Yeah,

Every single month we do readings and energy clearing now.

Every month for over three years it keeps going somehow. People keep showing up. So we

yeah, that's a cool, that's a cool one. 

Shoot.

As you're thinking of what that is, , I do want to say it has been really cool to watch the manner in which you have actually remembered who and what you are over the conversations you and I have had over the past couple of years. I think you have definitely come way farther in that than you have any idea, or maybe you do know. you do [01:24:00] know, but I, which is why it's really cool to see you doing this podcast. Cause I'm like, this makes sense. This to me, I'm like, this makes sense for you. And so I just pray that you will continue to do it I have a feeling you'll be helping some other people figure out who the hell they are in this strange room as well.

Thanks. That's the, that's the goal. That is the goal. I really, so , like for the past couple of years, I had ideas for, yeah, I should do a YouTube channel.

I should do a podcast. That's always been like on the back of my mind. But what really hit me. What really hit me was like, I need to build a community where it's not just like, it's not lip service. It's not lip service.

It's, I, I want to build a community. of like minded people that need support to get the work [01:25:00] done.

Yeah.

the biggest, it's one of the biggest problems that I see in our, in this industry, this consciousness, disclosure, whatever you want to call. People talk and talk and talk and talk.

Oh yeah.

They don't do the, they're, they're not doing the work.

And, and it's not, it's not just, it's not a judgment because I'm right there with you, like there's times that I don't, I'm just off in outer space and I'm not doing anything.

Yeah.

and

right.

I, I think it would be cool to create a community where You know, like minded individuals can come together and be accountability for each other.

Yeah,

but it has to be people that are actually seriously doing it. And that's what I have not been able to find in a lot of places. I have found it in some places. where, you know, you have to spend 5, 000 [01:26:00] to

right?

be part of part of a group. And yeah, you do, you find other people that are serious because they put down the money.

Now I, I'd like to create something that's not 5, 000 so that more people can gain access and, and

I think that is the key. You literally just said it. You've been looking for it, but

yeah.

at a certain stage we have to create it.

Yeah. Yeah. So that's the, that's the goal now. So the podcast is just one small part of it.

Yeah, I think you must keep going no matter what. Keep doing it. Keep doing it.

Yeah,

Thank you for inviting me in here. Seriously,

Great to have you. Thanks for